Outlier TV Episode with Dale Beaumont Founder of Business Blueprint
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Andrew McCombe:
Hi there. I’m Andrew McCombe and welcome to Outlier. In this week’s episode, I’m in beautiful Manly, Australia, where I’m going to be speaking to Dale Beaumont. Australia’s premier business coach and creator of Business Blueprint.
Okay, guys, I’m excited. I’ve spent a lot of time learning from Dale in the past. I’m really looking forward to sharing it with you. Let’s go and meet him. Dale, welcome to Outlier. (Dale: Thanks so much). You’re one of Australia’s premier business coaches. You’ve got a fantastic Business Blueprint program. How’d you get into business?
Dale Beaumont:
How do I get into business? Well, I had a lot of energy as a kid, and I grew up in a family business. I was always on weekends helping my dad out, driving around in his truck. He was a decorator, so we’d put up decorations for weddings, during Christmas, during football season, and things like that.
I was always watching my dad do his thing, and helped him with sending out invoices and things like that. So it was kind of in the blood. I got a part-time job when I was 15. Also, I had a career in sport, which I can talk a little bit about later. But when I finished school, I lasted about five months in the workforce.
I just thought that everything was moving too slow, and I just got the idea that if you are going to be successful, you probably had to, at some point, start your own business. And so I decided to take that leap when I just turned 19. And it’s almost been 20 years now, and haven’t looked back.
Andrew McCombe:
So what was your first foray into business? Was it business coaching-related, or was it something else?
Dale Beaumont:
Yeah, it was something else. What had happened was: when I was 17, I started to go (along) to personal development courses. I started with a guy called Michael Roland. And then, basically, any guru that came to town, I would rock up and attend their events. Whether it was Tony Robbins, Robert Kiyosaki, Brandon Bays, Zig Ziglar, or Jim Rohn, I’d just go to all of their events. I was like a sponge, taking it all in.
And what would happen is, I’d sort of look around the audience, and they seem like the average age was about 50. And I had a lot of people come up to me in the breaks saying, “Wow, you’re so young. “You’re so lucky”. “What are you doing here? Are you lost?” I said, “No, no, no, I’m here to learn.” And they said, “Wow, if only I had all this information when I was your age, I wonder where I’d be today.” And that got me thinking, why isn’t this stuff around personal and professional development, why isn’t it taught at school? We spent so much time on subjects like maths and science, obviously, they have their place, but how much of it do you actually use in the real world?
Probably less than 5%. So the other 95% is wasted, but these life skills that you have forever aren’t really focused on enough in schools. And so we thought about whether or not we try to go to the board of education and get them to change the curriculum. And we realized that it was going to take 20 years. So if it’s debate, it’s up to me. So I started up with a business partner, a guy I went to school with called Brent.
We started running weekend program for teenagers, taking all the best content that was out there in the personal or professional development field and making it fun, relevant, exciting, and interesting for young people. We had a DJ there, a smoke machine, we’d play loud music, we’d watch movie clips, but then we’d have some content that we put throughout the day.
It was just amazing. That business is still running almost 20 years later, still going. We’ve had about 40,000 young people go through the course we created, called “Empower You.” That was my first business. It came from wanting to inspire young people and to give them access to the tools that were going to equip them for success in life.
Andrew McCombe:
What inspired you to get into personal development before you started inspiring others with it?
Dale Beaumont:
It’s a happy and sad story.
The fortunate part of it is that I was always ambitious, and I had a lot of energy as a kid. I always wanted to try hard and be the best. I wanted to win, and I was competitive. There was that sense of wanting to get ahead, make something of myself, and become successful.
But the other sad part of that story is when I was 17 years old, my younger brother, who was 15, passed away in unexpected and tragic circumstances. That sent me into a massive tailspin. I felt responsible for what had happened because up until then, my whole life had been around Dale. I was training; I was an elite gymnast. I was training 36 hours a week in the gym. My whole family was around, getting bailed from point A to point B. I felt just devastated by what had happened. I had this big hole in my heart, and I wanted to try and heal up in some way.
So, when I went to these courses, not only did I learn about how to become successful, which was the positive side, but I also learned about how to deal with the baggage that I had taken on board because of this tragedy.
I learned, through the process, to forgive myself and realize that what had happened was completely unexpected. There was no way of me knowing what was going to happen, and I could not have done things differently. I was on the path, and he was on a path. Therefore, I just had to continue my life. And I was either going to use this as my excuse to say; this is the reason why I’m going to turn to drugs, or this is the reason why I’m going to leave home.
This is the reason why my life is going to go in a downward spiral. Or I can say, “It’s happened. It’s very sad. And it’s going to be with me for the rest of my life, but I can put that in place in my mind, where I’ll always remember all the good times, but I’m going to continue on my path and my purpose in life.”
That’s one of the reasons that drew me to personal development. I was inspired to create the programs for young people because I felt that I had been able to deal with this tragedy as best I could. And I wanted to be able to give that message to other young people. It’s important to set goals, make the most of your life, and live life to the fullest.
But you also need to understand how to manage your emotions, how to deal with challenges and obstacles, how to overcome adversity. Many of the kids that we had worked with had (parents whose 50% of marriages end in divorce). Many of the kids that we were working with had a lot of issues (around) divorced parents, others had experimented with drugs.
Some of them even contemplated suicide.
I wanted to be able to give them hope and say that this stuff is going to happen to you in life. It’s a part of life. But it’s not about what happens to you. It’s about how you choose to respond to what happens to you. That’s going to decide your future. And that’s what got me into this work, which I don’t tell many people about.
Andrew McCombe:
It’s really fascinating. My story is very similar to that. I had a brother die, as well. And when you said that, it hit me right here, mate.
One thing that really struck me out of that too, for your sake, is, I know I went through the same thing, right? You go into a serious grief process, and I’d have to say I was depressed for at least six months, not knowing what the hell I wanted to do. What was it that called you to personal development?
Like how did you know that it was the path for you? Michael Rowland, you mentioned, was the first thing that you did. There’s going to be a lot of people out there who are struggling with what’s going on for them right now, and they don’t know where to turn. Right? So how did you know where to turn at that time?
Dale Beaumont:
When I remember back (to it because taking me back to that, the days and the weeks and months of flight, really Helen and it’s just like, so) it was like my whole world was falling apart. And I can even remember, just driving a couple of weeks later, I saw a billboard, and there was this couple, and they were happy. And I’m thinking, “How dare you be happy? Don’t you understand what has happened?”
I suppose I was going through all the stages of grief, one of them being anger. I was angry at everything and everyone. The furthest thing I could think of at that time was happiness. So I saw this guy pop up on the TV, and he talked about how to live a life of absolute happiness. And I was calling bullshit on that at the moment.
How the hell can you be happy when something so terrible and devastating has happened? But I went along just to hear what he had to say, and I was curious to know how I could get to a place of happiness. Because at that time, it felt like it was never going to happen. And I was never going to be able to move forward. That’s what got me there in the first place. And then, when I was there, I started to learn about the law of attraction, the power of the mind, and about how to manage and control your emotions. This whole other world opened up to me, and I thought, “Wow, this is so powerful. I wish I would’ve learned this in school.” And after a few more years of going on that journey, picking up pieces of the puzzle from all different places, I had all of these tools. And I thought these are great tools, but most people don’t really find out about them until later on in life. I wanted to take this and make it fun, exciting, and relevant for young people. So that’s (really my first business and) where it all began.
Andrew McCombe:
Do you find that a lot of people have a negative experience or a life-changing experience later in life, and that’s why they tend to get into it? And you had yours early. When the student is ready, the teacher will appear. And you got it earlier, right?
Dale Beaumont:
Yes, I feel fortunate for that. And some people only discover things later on in life. I think most people in their twenties and even thirties still think that they’ve got time on their side. They think, “It’ll be alright.” But when people then get married and they might go through a separation, or they might be stuck in a job that they hate, or struggling to make ends meet to pay off the mortgage…
They look back, and they haven’t done all the things that they wanted to do. Most people get to a breaking point, like the midlife crisis, and that’s what leads them to find help and to look for answers through personal development. For some people, it could be a connection with faith or religion of some kind. I think that having that experience happen to me early on drew me there a lot sooner.
So before we move on to the next venture… A lot of these courses talk about all the upside, the positivity, and I guess you can never be truly fulfilled unless you feel the full spectrum of emotions. How important was dealing with the grief and the sadness, the anger, etc., that then allowed you to flip to more of the positive stuff? Or was it a case that, all the other things that they might’ve been teaching, you eventually dissipated the emotional charge around all those things anyway?
I think that the idea about understanding that there is this duality to life, that there are times when you’re going to experience awesome happiness, joy, fulfillment, and satisfaction. But to live that full life, there are going to be challenges as well. You cannot avoid them completely. So you have to, at some point, develop this set of tools to understand how to deal with these things. We can talk about the books that I’ve written and the people that I’ve interviewed along the way. I used to think the successful people were successful because they somehow were able to avoid some of the pitfalls, obstacles, and challenges that other people experienced. Somehow they had a smooth path, or they got lucky.
But what I realized is that people that are the most successful are those who had to deal with the most amount of staff and overcome the most challenges. They might have gone bankrupt at least once, if not twice, or they’ve had huge problems in their personal lives and other issues. It’s part of the course. If you want to achieve success, you’re going to have to deal with some major challenges. Not running from them, but learning how to manage them is an important part of success in life. I think it’s an important skill for kids and adults. Everyone needs to learn how to become more resilient and develop the skills around managing the mental and emotional side of life. You can only look at the stats around mental health right now, and see how many people are struggling in this particular area because many don’t have the tools about how to deal with the challenges of life.
Andrew McCombe:
So obviously, you learned the tools, you shared the tools with all the young kids. It must’ve been incredibly fulfilling. And obviously, it still is. What happens next?
Dale Beaumont:
I started this program; it was this weekend workshop that we ran, called “Empower you.” The first time we ran it, something special happened. We just knew that we had done something that was changing people’s lives. And they were telling how their friends and parents would drop their kids off, and their kids would be kicking and screaming, saying, “I don’t want to go here. I hate you, mum. I hate you, dad.”
Then after two and a half days going through our program, they’d run up to their mom and dad, put their arms around them, thanking them, showing their gratitude and appreciation. They’d set goals for their life; they’d break through a board, and break through some of their limiting beliefs that they had. It’s just an amazing experience. I just wanted to help more people get this.
So, we worked really hard for the next five years. We expanded “Empower you” throughout Australia and then into New Zealand. Then we took it to Singapore and then Vietnam. We ran a couple of programs in Malaysia, one in Hong Kong and Indonesia.
After five years, we ended up expanding into seven different countries and, at that point, had tens of thousands of young people through our program. It was a lot of fun. Then I wanted to try some other things. I got into books and book publishing and created a series called “The Secrets Exposed.” Then I had a couple of other little businesses after that in media and real estate.
And when I was 28, I started the company that I’m probably most known for today, “Business Blueprint,” which is a business education company. Its mission is to help business owners build the business of their dreams. We can talk more about all of those things and the steps in between. It’s been a lot of fun.
Andrew McCombe:
And just going back to those books, I think that probably the first time I’d ever heard and met you was when the books were coming out. You must’ve met some incredible people in that process.
Dale Beaumont:
Yes, I did. So, this is how it happened. I was 25. And I was thinking about the advice that I’d give young people. We would always teach them that whatever you want to do in life, whatever your goals or dreams are, there’s someone out there that has already done it, someone who’s already living that life or achieved what you wanted to achieve. You’ve got exactly something pretty similar. We’d always say, “why would you go out there and try to do it all yourself through trial and error, making all the same mistakes that have been made by others. Learn from other people that have gone before you, so there’s a recipe for success.”
You just have to find that recipe or model excellence, as we sometimes used to call it. We would give that advice, and some people would act on it. They’d go interview successful people. But some people would think, “how do I find them? What questions do I ask?” So I thought, wouldn’t it be cool if I could go out there and find all these experts, interview them, and put them together in a book, rather than someone having to spend weeks or months or years finding these answers. I could just make a book and give it to them. That would be an awesome product. So I came up with this concept, called “The secrets exposed” series, and I started interviewing people. And along the way, because I was modeling excellence myself,
I met one of my mentors, a guy called Mark Victor Hansen, who wrote a series of books called “The Chicken Soup For The Soul” series. I think they’ve sold hundreds of millions of copies now. I went to one of his events, and he said, “don’t think book, think book series.” So I thought maybe I could do a series on different topics. I came up with one for male entrepreneurs, one for female entrepreneurs, one for property millionaires, small business owners, and young achievers. Later on, we did one on marketing experts—a whole bunch of books, 15 in the space of three years.
It was a wild journey. We interviewed around 240 people, took all their content, and put it together in a series of books. I was able to meet some amazing people, people that had worked at the United Nations, and people that had built multimillion-dollar businesses. I met father Chris Riley that created “Youth off the streets” as well, Peter Banes, who founded “Hands across the water.” I met a lot of amazing people through that process, and it was a lot of fun. We sold 250,000, a quarter of a million books, which was pretty nice. Often I meet people who say, “I got one of your books in my house.” It’s good to know that I’ve been able to make an impact.
And what inspired me to do the books was the fact that as a speaker running programs you can only help the people that you’re physically in front of, but as an author, you can help people all over the country, all over the world, and people that you may never meet physically. That made a big difference.
Andrew McCombe:
What I loved about it, Dale, was the leverage side of it. And as you were saying, it was a book, not a speaker, where people would have to come to you. So you’re location dependent. Books allow you to be anywhere at any time. But also the business model behind it was brilliant. Wasn’t it? Do you want to talk us through that a bit more?
Dale Beaumont:
The business model was to do a series rather than one book. What I learned by that point is that you don’t normally make money the first time or second time, or even probably the fifth time you do something. It’s any after the five when you just have the formula down pat. And then you just rinse and repeat. That’s when I decided that I was going to do the series. I even made a little bit of money with the first few books, but I just reinvested it back into the business. But after that, I had all the systems down pat. We had a system for everything. To prove that, we did two books in the first year, we did two books in the second year, and then we did 11 books in the third year.
So it was exponential growth. That just showed the system was working. It’s kind of a record; I don’t know if anyone else has ever done 11 books in one year.
Andrew McCombe:
And they were all big sellers too.
Dale Beaumont:
We also had an interesting model whereby many of the people in the books were able to purchase copies at a discounted price for the initial print run. So we sold 10,000 copies of the books before they were even printed. And then they went to book shops; they were an instant bestseller.
Andrew McCombe:
So, I love the model. Because again, it’s all about leverage, isn’t it? Business is about leverage, doing more for less. And you were doing that with the proof being 11 books in the third year.
Dale Beaumont:
That’s right.
Andrew McCombe:
So, you were then getting asked by others, because I know they were inspired; I was inspired by the model and what you’ve done. And it skyrocketed you to another level as well, as far as awareness goes. Did you then start getting others going – can you help me with this?
Dale Beaumont:
Yes, there were lots of people. As I was doing the book, they said, “I’ve always dreamed about writing a book”, and “I’ve been really inspired by you, and I finally want to make that vision a reality. Can I buy you lunch? Can I get you a cup of coffee? I just want to pick your brains and find out how I did it.” Then I started meeting people for coffee.
At first, I would get one call a week, but then it was two calls, then three and four calls. So I thought I’m going to need to put on an event. I put on a workshop where I was teaching people how to write and publish books.
Then I created a course to help people, and that did well. From there, people were starting to ask me further questions, “Well, now I’ve done the book. How do I get publicity?” And I had gotten quite a lot of publicity for my first company. We were on television, hundreds of radio interviews, all these things, so I thought I could teach that.
Also, I was an early adopter of building websites. We built our first website in 2001. A couple of years later, we bolted on e-commerce and online ordering. People were saying, “how did you build the website?”
At the same time, in 2007-2008, YouTube was starting to become a thing. I had some YouTube videos that I was sending people links. Then they started asking, “how do you do videos?” Then I created the course called “Get published secrets,” after that another one called “Profile accelerator.”
This was a four-day course about building your profile and becoming an expert in your particular field. Then there were straight-up entrepreneurs coming to my event and asking me questions like, “how do you grow your business?” It quickly grew from helping people publish books, get publicity, and market themselves better to showing them how to grow their business. My angle was around helping people to make the shift from the old world to the new world. In the past, the way you’d advertise your business was to just put an ad in the yellow pages, local newspaper, or radio station.
But all of those traditional media outlets were in massive decline. What was emerging was this new thing called social media. The platforms like Facebook, YouTube, and Google AdWords, and all these new platforms, were the future of business. I saw that trend, and I had made the shift in my own business and was reaping the rewards of that. A lot of people started asking me, “how are you doing all this stuff?”
That’s when I started “Business Blueprint,” November 2009. And we’ve been doing that for over 10 years now, and it’s been amazing. Even though I loved working with those young people, in 2008, I handed the reigns over to the guy I started with, my business partner. He’s kept running it ever since.
It’s awesome to look at my phone and, every other weekend, see photos of the event that I started all those years ago, which is great. But now my real focus is helping business owners and entrepreneurs because what I love about the work that I do now is, that when you help one business owner, you’re not just helping one person, you’re immediately helping their entire family.
But each business owner deals with staff, suppliers, contractors, and customers that they are doing business with. They’re probably impacting a couple of hundred people. Therefore, when you help one business owner become successful, you’re having this compounding effect, because you’re helping hundreds, if not thousands, indirectly. That’s what I’m excited about now, helping more business owners across Australia and New Zealand.
We’ve built some technology products as well, and that is now helping entrepreneurs globally.
Andrew McCombe:
So, just amazing timing for you, I guess, in the cycle of life with the Internet and the way all amazing platforms were coming on board at the time you started. But before we get to the other, Bizversity and everything else that you’re doing, what was your process? Was it purely a case of looking at what people are wanting? Obviously, for the entrepreneurs out there, you can either create something and hope someone wants it when you look at what’s happening and create something for it. What was your process at that time? Or did you just make it up as you went?
Dale Beaumont:
It sort of a perfect storm with all those things emerging. I had grown up in a family business. I had started my first business when I was 19. I had almost 10 years of business experience at that point. I was passionate about business, and I think that helps. You’ve got to be passionate about what you do, no matter what the opportunity is or whatever. I think if you’re just a pure opportunist, it can only take you so far. You got to love what you do. The next thing was what was happening in the marketplace at that particular time. There was definitely this changing of the God-type moment, from the old world to the new world.
The lucky thing for me was the fact that I was born in 1981. I was a part of the first generation that grew up with computers in their home and computers in their classroom. With the Internet coming out, and my first email address, and those types of things, it just made sense to me. Not that I’m super technical or anything like that, I just knew how to make things work and put things together.
But, most people that grew up before this time, I didn’t realize this, but they really struggled with regard to technology.
They had to learn it. People that were in their forties, fifties, and sixties, realized they had to change, but they were stuck between these worlds where you’re too young retire, but too old to go back to school. They had to modernize rapidly, and they had to rapidly upskill and learn about digital marketing and how to make their business relevant in today’s marketplace.
The people that they used to go to for advice were their accountants who’re even more primitive and backward than what they are. Or they would go to their lawyer, which is probably even worse. They realized that they needed to seek out, in this case, younger people to kind of help them to make the shift. And I like to think that I’m a very respectful type of person and was able to help them to make that shift but in a really fun and empowering way. Sometimes when I talk to young people, they make me feel like an idiot.
I wanted to make sure that I never did that. And I was always doing it in such a way, being really supportive and encourage them, motivate them, and give them support, and I would just say, “hang in there, you can do it.” You just have to do things step by step, but I was able to break it down and create training videos and resources. That really made it much easier for people to make the shift.
Andrew McCombe:
Going back to leverage. We talked about the books; it was a leverageable process? So now, “Business Blueprint” begins. And it becomes an event-based business first, is that how it started?
Dale Beaumont:
Yeah. Going back to this idea about leverage – if I’m going to do a conscious work for one person, even 10 people, it’s going to work for hundreds, and one day, thousands of people. Events are a great way to create leverage. Because it’s not a one-to-one model, it’s a one-to-many model. I started to run these workshops, and I had to, oftentimes, have to start with 20 to 30 people in a room, teaching them how to do something.
Whether it’s how to use YouTube to market your business, or how to set up a CRM system and set up an email marketing campaign, for example. Or how to set up Google sites and start documenting their policies and procedures in a collaborative way, you’re using modern technology. So I would get them in a room, and I’d teach them, break it down, and teach them, step by step.
Now we have more than 500 entrepreneurs that go through our program every single year. Still, part of my mission was always about how to help as many people as possible to build the business of their dreams? For me, it’s about quality, but it’s about quantity as well. I want to help more people, and I want to have a great program. That’s been my main focus, developing something that can scale so I can have that bigger impact on people.
Andrew McCombe:
So, talking of the leverage and scale part again. So you’ve got a model where it’s a free workshop, a one day workshop to start with. It flows into an annual coaching program or a year-long coaching program. And was there any question at any point, whether you just wanted to do webinars instead of actually in person and why do you prefer the in person side of, especially, I guess, for the one day workshops?
Dale Beaumont:
I did experiment with doing webinars, to sell a program, but I found that I did much better from a live event than webinars. I do webinars mainly for servicing clients and as part of my delivery. But I just find that something magic happens when you have people in a room. There’s a difference between buying a gym membership and hiring a personal trainer. If you just buy a gym membership, it doesn’t make you fit. There are the tools, but you have to figure out how to use them or a program you need to follow. Some people work out for years and don’t get any real dramatic results and changes because they really don’t know what they’re doing. Hiring a personal trainer is a completely different experience.
It’s someone who knows what they’re doing; they’ve got results themselves. They’ve got a track record. You have to show up at a certain time, and they’re going to make sure that you work out and follow the program.
I found that’s more of my style, helping people to implement. And by being in that live event, it’s like, “open up your computer. Now type in this into your web browser. Now click over here. Now, set this up. Now, do this and do that.” It’s a bit intense when you’re in it, but in the end, it’s like, “Oh my gosh, I did this.” And it could have taken them weeks or months on their own, but in four or five hours, they’ve been able to do something that they thought was impossible. Just because they’ve had someone there, holding their hand and helping them to follow through.
Andrew McCombe:
It’s massive inertia, isn’t there, for a lot of people if they don’t know how it works beforehand. So obviously that just nullifies that, and you’re doing it with them and, it’s evolved, hasn’t it? Was it initially yourself and Catherine, your wife, who started the process?
Dale Beaumont:
Yeah, that’s right. Catherine, my wife, was very much involved in the creation of “Business Blueprint.” But along the way, we’ve had two kids.
Now she’s taken more of a behind-the-scenes type of a role. She looks after all the finance and insurances, and now we have a number of investments as well. She manages all of those. But yes, it’s been really fun to create this program, that’s helped thousands of entrepreneurs and business owners. But the other thing that I’m passionate about as well, and part of what we can perhaps talk next is not just about the business. The business, for me, is a vehicle for you to create the life of your dreams. I do help people with their business,
but what I really care about is people creating a business so that they can do what they really want to do in their life. For some people, it could be traveling, and for others, it could be spending more time with their kids. For some people, it may be spending more time volunteering at church or supporting a charity. Many people now have bucket lists, and it’s just about working through their bucket list and doing things that inspire them. One of the things that I’ve started to do is make sure I practice what I preach. I love to travel, and we can talk more about what we’ve done as a family to make sure that we try and have that balance and live our lives on the way through. Hopefully, now I’ve inspired others to do the same.
Andrew McCombe:
Well, that’s fantastic. And so you’ve built a business, that’s a vehicle for you to live your dreams, which is helping others live their dreams by default. Because that’s what your business is about, helping others. Was it in 2010, when your first child arrived?
Dale Beaumont:
In 2007, was the first, in 2010, was the second.
Andrew McCombe:
I know traveling was a massive part of who you are. Did you sit down and design how you want it to be at that point? Or did you just go, “Hey, we’re going to go traveling,” or, what? Because you now travel four months of the year, is that right?
Dale Beaumont:
Yeah, that’s right. We did two months in Australia, and then, one month traveling the world. We’ve been doing that for the last 12 years, ever since our son was born. And there were a number of things that inspired it. There’s probably two that stand out, that I’m happy to share. One of them was the book that I read called “the four hour week” by Tim Ferriss.
It’s talking about what most people do. They work the ’40, 40, 40 plan’, which means they work 40 hours a week for 40 years of their life. And they end up retiring on 40% of their income. I’m thinking rather than spending your whole next 40 years, 50 years working, and then retiring, why don’t you take these little mini-retirements throughout your working life? And if you have a good business and pretty good systems, you can leverage yourself out of the day-to-day, so that business can run without you having to be there every single day. And you can come back, obviously, and continue to work on the business. And especially now, thanks to the technology that now exists, dashboards that we can have, cloud-based accounting, and all the modern CRMs that are fantastic.
You can, in many cases, run your business from anywhere in the world. Which I now do. Some people completely can, and there are other people, like me. I still run events, but I can schedule all my events, and pack all of my work into two months, and then I can disappear for a month. And the team does the management. That book was about, “Oh, okay. And maybe I didn’t have to wait until I’m 60 to do this stuff. Maybe I could do it along the way.”
And then so many friends of mine, when we gave birth to our son, came up and said, “you see that little tiny baby that you got there, that’s about this big. You’re going to blink, and it’s going to be, where’s the keys to the car, and that’s it. Savor every single moment.”
So I thought to myself, I could just spend the next, 15-20 years of my life working, making all this money, and then go, “okay. But now my kids are kind of like gone, and I’ve got no one to share it with.” And so I thought, why don’t I actually go a little bit slower, understanding the fact that, most people now, hopefully, with modern technology will be living to at least 90, if not a hundred, maybe even 110 or 20.
Just go a little slower and live your life on the way through as well, rather than wait for that one day, Sunday, when I’ll do all the stuff I wanted to do. Who knows, the opposite could happen as well.
Many people have left this planet far too soon, as we both know. Therefore, don’t wait to someday; let’s do it now. That’s really what we do. We do two months, one month travel. We’ve been now to 85 countries around the world and, I could list hundreds of different special things that we’ve done. It’s just been a lot of fun. Now, what I try to do, is inspire people through what I’ve achieved.
And I don’t say it to boast or brag or anything like that, but I just want to say if you’re working for your business, that’s a problem. Your business should be working for you. And how do we flip that equation, so your business can give you and create for your life that you want? Let’s spend 12 months, let’s figure out how to do that for you. You can then have your business run and fuel your lifestyle and fuel your dreams, and then you can inspire others as well.
Andrew McCombe:
And so, did you sit down with Catherine early on in that process when the kids were arriving and plan out that we’re going to do these two months on one month and then have to forecast it into the future? Or how does the planning process go?
Dale Beaumont:
Every year, in October, we plan out the next 12 months. We plan out things 12 months in advance. I schedule all of my events that I run 12 months in advance, book all of our venues, all that type of stuff. But then we put in all of our holidays, so we know exactly when we’re going to be taking out our trips. Now we have to work around school holidays and stuff like that, but before we could just put them in whenever we wanted to.
We have this huge long list of different places we want to go to. A lot of them we’ve ticked off now, which is great. We wanted to go to Antarctica, spend a month living in New York, go up to the fjords in Norway as well. We’ve wanted to go top to bottom of Egypt. We’d had this list of things that we want to do. At the beginning of the year, we decide what the four things we’re going to do are, and then we tick them off. In most cases, we just book them, get to the flights, get all other combinations sorted out.
And then once it’s locked in, the good thing about that is, it’s in the diary. I can work hard knowing that, when I’m fairly exhausted, there’ll be a break coming. And the funny thing is that some of the best ideas that I’ve ever had came to me when I’ve been out of my business. I’ve just seen things from a different perspective.
I think it’s good for the business to step out away from it. Because it makes the business work without the owner having to be there every single day, staff have to step up; you need to become a better leader as well. And also, you get to see where the breakpoints are within the business. So when you come back, it’s like, “okay, I need to fix this. I need to fix this. I need to fix that.” And ultimately, it makes the business a lot stronger, and one day more saleable as well.
Andrew McCombe:
You’ve got a good, is it the systems that run the business, or is it the quality staff that run the good systems? Obviously, to be able to go away and do what you do, you’ve got something good in place there, haven’t you?
Dale Beaumont:
Yeah, absolutely. It’s about the foundation, it’s about systems, but it’s also about people and team that run the systems as well. It’s about technology. If you haven’t invested in the right technology, it’s very hard to manage and maintain. And then it’s also about leadership, your leadership as a manager, and also the leadership of the team that you have in place. And to a certain extent, it’s also about trust and learning to let go.
And that’s sometimes the hardest thing. You want to control everything, especially if you built something from the ground up, you suffer from this syndrome – no one can do it as well as I can syndrome. At some point, you’re going to need to really let go and put your faith in others to run day-to-day.
Andrew McCombe:
With your holiday side of things, you’ve got a bucket list that you’re ticking off, or you just come up with it as you go, through traveling, you’ll come up with other ideas to go for next time? Or how does it work?
Dale Beaumont:
We’ve got a big list. I wrote it down when I was at the ‘goal setting’ workshop when I was 18. I was asked to write down a challenge, a hundred things that I wanted to do in my life. I’ve looked back on that list and probably done about 50% of those things now. But then there are other things that I just realized were just things that I thought I was going to own like a winery. And now I’m thinking, “I have to drink wine, but I probably don’t want to be picking the grapes.” So there are a few things where my priorities have changed. But there are always new things that are emerging as well.
Sometimes I’ll see something that someone does, and think, “wow, that’s awesome. I want to add that to my list.”
Or I might be flicking through a magazine or watching something on the TV or read a book that inspires me. And it expands. But every year, I try to make sure that at least four or five things, I’m ticking off.
And at this stage as well, I am doing a lot of things that I want to do, but at this point in my life, and same for my wife as well, kids are our number one priority. It’s not just about what we want to do because we’ve got plenty of time when they leave; we’ll have another 30, 40 years to do all the other stuff we want to do.
It’s about giving them experiences as well. Helping them to go to different places, whether that be taking them to Egypt to see the pyramids or to London to see the Churchill war rooms or to go to Normandy and see the Battlefront. Taking them to Gallipoli as well. We’ve taken them to Hiroshima and Nagasaki in Japan.
And we’ve taken them to Singapore and many different places where we’re just showing them this is the life we have. We’re very privileged, and just back 50 years ago, the world was very different. We even went to this place in the UK, Cornwall, where they had these teen mines. Kids as young as nine and ten were working in mines, face full of dust, and some of them would die in their late teens because of the poison for working in the mines at a very young age.
And I thought, “if you guys were born a hundred years ago, this would have been your life.” It’s just about them to be able to have that appreciation and to learn about currencies and cultures. We’ve spent a lot of time in the Middle East as well. I think it’s great for kids to be able not to break down any prejudice, and realize that we’re one big global family.
Andrew McCombe:
I was just thinking, when you started out, you wanted to recreate the education system, and you’ve done that, or you’re helping that process with entrepreneurs, but also with your kids, right?
It’s the impact on them to go to these places which most people read about in books. They’re going to see it for real. Have you noticed they’ve become more intelligent or more global or worldly or in their ability to learn by doing that, or?
Dale Beaumont:
Everywhere we go, when we do tours in different places, it’s just all going in, and, amazingly, kids will start making connections and say, “Oh, this is like this.” Or they might see something, and they might go, “Oh, there are hieroglyphs.” They just see it and kind of know what it is. They’re starting to develop more and more of those connections, and starting to get interested in history.
Thankfully, now there are so many amazing YouTube channels. The kids are just going in, devouring all these videos, and learning about history.
I think that history is such a good thing to study because many of the mistakes people make today are the same mistakes people made before. I think that if you have a good understanding of history, you make better decisions in the present. And you can see the future.
Someone said that a futurist is just the historian in reverse because once you see several patterns, you know what’s going to happen next. But the other thing which has been important for us as well is really around understanding different cultures, different religions, different ways of operating.
The life that we have here is just one model. There are lots of different models out there, and this did help them develop that appreciation of wherever you go, be respectful, and do what you can to make things better.
Andrew McCombe:
So Dale, kids are obviously really important to you. Still, you also have another association with kids in another form, don’t you?
Dale Beaumont:
Yes, I do. That’s through our association with a charity called “The hands across the water.” It’s the charity that was started in 2005, shortly after the boxing day tsunami, of the year 2004. It was the largest natural disaster in modern history. 250,000 people lost their lives in a single day. And there were thousands and thousands of children that were instantly left as orphans.
A man called Peter Baines, who was part of the Australian federal police, was sent there. He was a forensic scientist, and his job was to make victim identification. When he arrived, 3000 dead bodies were in this little place in the Cadillac in Thailand. He saw these children walking around that had lost their parents. He decided that he was going to do something.
There was this beautiful lady that had started taking in some kids, and she set up a tent, and these kids were living with her in this tent. And he said, “this isn’t right.” When he came back to Australia, he started raising money and was able to build them a home. As he started to spend more time in Thailand, he saw that there were so many other children that were really struggling there.
Another one was home for HIV positive kids. He realized the fact that we live in an amazing country here in Australia. We’re so blessed, and there are so many other places in the world that need our help. There’s that saying, “to however much is given much is asked.”
As entrepreneurs, we have the opportunity to make a lot of money from our business, far more than we need ourselves. The right thing to do is to help give others a leg up, “How do I give back?” We got to a point in 2012, my wife and I,
We’ve got some good money in the bank. We’ve got investment properties; we’re going to be fine. Our kids are going to be fine. But now we want actually to start doing something more. We want our business to move beyond just a money-making business. We wanted to link it to a cause that we were passionate about. In 2007, I interviewed Peter Bains; it’s in one of my books. That’s when the thought occurred. I said to my wife, “Well, how about we call up Peter?”
He’s running this amazing charity and see if we can help him support him.” Around the same time he was opening another home, he then I had seven homes, and he was looking for some extra funding, and we said, “okay, we want to help.” We did an event where we got together some people from our business community, and we had a bike ride in Thailand. In the first year, we raised about $180,000, which was pretty good.
We’ve kept raising money for the last seven years now. We’ve raised about $2 million for “Hands across the water.” That makes a massive difference in impacting hundreds of children that we support by giving them a safe place, proper medical care, and education. But most importantly, a loving home. That’s been our cause of choice. I think that there’s a lot of causes out there.
People will have their own different opinions on what they feel connected to, whether that be people, whether it be the environment, whether that be animals. Find something you’re passionate about, find a cause that you believe in, and link it to what you are doing.
That’s what I try to do now, help all the entrepreneurs that I work with is, and say, “your business has to work for you and your family, but then it’s going to work for the global family as well. Find a cause that you’re passionate about, link arms with it, and use some of that money that you make from your business and link it to an organization that you’re part of.”
If you find it hard to choose just one cause, there’s an amazing organization called B1G1 started by a lovely lady called Masami and also Paul Dunn. You can check out B1G1, enabling you to link different aspects of your business to certain causes. They’ve got now maybe close to a thousand different charity organizations that link into their platform.
What you can do is spread your giving around to different organizations that you feel are connected to. We’ve had one main focus for the last seven years, and that works for us. Now, some people are relying on us, and we’ve got recurring expenses. But that’s the path that we’ve chosen. Other people may choose to have different causes every month. But having a cause you’re passionate about, I think, is really important.
Andrew McCombe:
How does it feel to you and Catherine that you can make that difference through your business? And then obviously, because you take your entrepreneurs with you, don’t you, on those trips every year? Do they get to make that difference as well? How does that feel?
Dale Beaumont:
It feels amazing. From the perspective of the reactions of the other entrepreneurs, I think deep down, all of us do want to make an impact. We want to leave a mark. We want to help people. On the surface level, yes, we want to make money, but beyond all of that, we just want to do something that helps people.
There’s no greater joy than making a difference in someone else’s lives. I get more joy out of seeing other people’s success than sometimes when I do my own success. Many people that have partnered with us and that we’ve taken to Thailand when they visited the projects said, “I’ve always wanted to do something, but I just haven’t known what.”
And I thought that my little contribution wasn’t going to make much of an impact. But by joining forces with 50, 60 other entrepreneurs, we can do something that none of us could achieve on our own. There are a few buildings now that we’ve funded. We wouldn’t be able to do that individually, but as a collective community of entrepreneurs, we can do amazing things.
Now some of the entrepreneurs that we work with have sponsored children there, and have gone there even in some of their break time to donate their time and to look after the kids, to do gardening, and building projects. It’s really good to help people develop this, call it, ‘the third dimension’ to their business. If your business is just about you and your family, this is great, but if you have something else, a cause and a mission that you’re really passionate about, it gives your business an X factor.
And your customers see that you’re beyond just a profit-making business. Your staff can get involved in that as well. Doing good does a lot of good for your business as well. And I think it makes you even more powerful as an entrepreneur and as a business.
Andrew McCombe:
Do you find there’s a spiritual concept where if you give to receive, you never receive? But if you give where you think you’ll receive will actually never come back from where you thought it would have come from, it comes from somewhere else. Do you find the more you give, the more magic happens elsewhere for you in relation to personal and business and/or your entrepreneurs as well?
Dale Beaumont:
Yeah. I didn’t think about it from a business growth point of view. I just thought it was the right thing to do at the beginning. But you’re right. There are all these other indirect benefits that happen as a result of it. People that we’ve met, people that have been attracted to us, different staff that has stayed with us for longer periods of time because of the connection that we have to the cause. So it does come back to us. It’s not the main reason why you do it,
but certainly, it’s good to know that other people see the impact that you’re doing and are inspired by it. The biggest part of it that I love is that a lot of people said to me, “I used to think that when I’m successful when I’ve got millions of dollars in the bank, then I’ll start giving money away.” But it’s not about the amount of money; it’s about the mental habit and discipline about having money flow through you. You make it, you save some, spend some, and then you give some.
When you have that philosophy of money as a flow, you end up with more money coming to you anyway, as a result. (Andrew: Giving is the receiving, isn’t it?) You don’t have to do it sometime down the track, start now, and just give a little, even if it’s just a hundred bucks a month, just start with something. And then you can set a goal, and think, “what do I need to do to make it $200 a month and then $500 a month, then a thousand dollars a month.” You can grow and expand from there, but just start small and work your way up.
Andrew McCombe:
And it doesn’t have to be money either, does it? Like creativity, you can offer services or skills or connections.
Dale Beaumont:
You could volunteer or get your staff do volunteering. Some companies even allow their staff to take five days a year when the staff volunteer and the company, obviously, pays their salary during that period of time. But if you are in downtime in the business or areas whereby it’s not all hands on deck, then that’s another way that as a business, you can be giving something that involves the other currency, which is time.
Andrew McCombe:
Yeah. So you mentioned earlier that technology is really important to you. You also have an AI business, an artificial intelligence business. It’s diversification of Business Blueprint. Tell us a little bit more about that.
Dale Beaumont:
I’ve always been passionate about helping as many people as possible to build the business of their dreams. We do that through live events, and I love live events because they are about making sure that people do the work. But the problem with live events is – you only can help the people that you’re physically in front of. I’ve traveled all around the world, and there are the same business challenges everywhere.
Here in Australia and even in America, there are events every weekend. You can go there, meet up group, and if you want to grow your business, there is no shortage of people out there sharing advice. But in many developing countries, business education or business events are not common.
Therefore, I thought, “wouldn’t it be cool to create a product that could help entrepreneurs globally?” And I became fascinated with the trend of artificial intelligence, and the promise of what it could do. And I thought to myself, “wouldn’t it be cool if I could build a business coach, using artificial intelligence that could coach people at scale?” It could work 24 hours a day, seven days a week, and help millions of people simultaneously.
That’s been an amazing journey. I’ve learned so much through that. And now we’ve created this huge library of content to go with the technology piece.
We’ve got a library of nearly 2000 business education videos. That’s now wrapped up in a platform we call “BizVersity.””Business Blueprint” is for what I do in Australia and New Zealand through primarily live events. But “BizVersity” is a platform where I’m not the face, and its purpose is to help people on a global scale.
Andrew McCombe:
And speaking of you being the face, I know we’ve talked about this in the past, is, at some point, in any business, you want to leverage yourself out of the business. So is BizVersity part of that, or is there other things that you’re doing that are also enhancing that process?
Dale Beaumont:
Yes, it’s a bit of an experiment to develop. I love learning, and I love technology. I wanted to build something that didn’t have me at the center. That’s been an amazing experience, but I do think when you’re in the early days of business, you’ve got to be very focused and say ‘no’ to a lot of opportunities. But having a business that is so personality-driven, it is a risk because what if something ever happens to me, how do I make sure that my work continues without me. That’s where BizVersity comes in. I’m also now training other people to present some of my workshops. I’ve got a lot of what we do recorded and filmed as well.
From a financial point of view, I’ve started to diversify by investing in other businesses as well. So there are now six other companies that I am a major investor in. (Andrew: similar type of businesses?)Actually, some are in the education space, but a lot are not in the education space at all, which is exciting. Some are completely different from what I do, but what’s been great about that is, I’ve realized just how the business at the end of the day is a universal language. Once you understand the core principles, you can apply them to any business. It doesn’t matter what it is. The systems around hiring staff, and all those types of things, are very similar.
It’s been fun for me to go back into the trenches, and to be back in these businesses in the early stages, and to be creating stuff again. So it’s beyond just a financial thing for me, it’s more about unleashing my creativity. My business has been around for ten years; I can’t redesign my brand because it’s already done, and the formula works. And I don’t want to mess with it too much, but I’m really loving using my skills now to help other entrepreneurs. I’m more behind the scenes now, and the other entrepreneurs are driving the day-to-day, but I can, in most cases, provide as much value in an hour of my time and input as what they could in a 40 hour week.
I’m not saying I’m better than them in any way. I simply have a lot of skills and experience, and sometimes just three or four really good ideas can bring hundreds of thousands of dollars in revenue into the business. And I’m also in the fortunate position now where I’m very well connected. Once I invest in a business, I can start making all these connections, and that turns into significant value to the business. For me, it’s not just about my time, it’s also about my contacts as well, that I’ve built up over the last 20 years, which are extremely valuable. I still love my business that I run “business blueprint,” but I’ve loved diversifying it and becoming an investor and a mentor. Even though I mentor 500 people, I can’t really get inside any of those businesses specifically, because it’s a one-to-many model.
I’ve loved building this portfolio of businesses that I invest in, but now I have invested in property as well. For me, it’s about learning new skills. So we’re doing a property development right now. It’s our first major project. Just last night, looking at some of the plans that were sent from the architect, and now we’re choosing building materials. I’m going online, looking at color swatches and paint. It’s fun for me to have some interests outside of what I do day-to-day.
Andrew McCombe:
Fantastic. So you talk about the formula, the magic formula, or the formula I mentioned with Business Blueprint is a working formula. And you talk about core business principles. And obviously, we’ve shared a heap of them today with the entrepreneurs and Outliers that are out there. But if someone is starting out on their journey specific to them, are they looking at their market? Are they looking at what they want to do? Are they looking at a combination of the two to create something for the market? What’s the starting process, obviously, other than coming to see Business Blueprint and 52 ways, what would you recommend to the Outliers out there who wanted to start?
Dale Beaumont:
First of all, a lot of people start with a product idea, and I think that’s the wrong way to go. A lot of people build a product and then try to find a market for that particular product. The worst mistake you can ever make in business, and I’ve made it a couple of times, is to build something that no one ever wanted or no one ever asked for. Just because you thought it was a great idea, doesn’t mean that enough other people will think the same. You might have five or ten people from your family and friends say, “That’s a great idea.” But when you put it out there to the market and to strangers, people that don’t know you would say, “No! That’s not a great idea.” (Andrew: the market will always give the feedback, right?).
That’s right. And you want to get that feedback before you’ve built the product, as opposed to some people who have spent years and hundreds of thousands of dollars in developing something that just was fundamentally flawed from the beginning. I suggest that people find a market that they want to serve. For me, it’s small business owners. And then, what you have to do is, find out a problem this market has that you could potentially solve. You could pick any market, maybe it’s going to be new mums, for example, or you might want to pick people that love golf. Spend time talking to those people, go to forums, look at products that are selling on Amazon, read the comments or the reviews, go to live events and workshops and things like that.
But just talk to people, interview at least 20, if not, maybe even up to 50 people. And you’ll soon start to see what are the common problems coming up over and over again. And then you can find a solution to those problems. The best entrepreneurs are just the best problem solvers. Find a meaningful problem that you can then solve. Sometimes you solve it through a product that you might be able to make, or you can buy low, sell high. You could import those products from different places. Or it could be a service that you create that you will be able to systemize and then scale. So you can ultimately help more people. Find a market that you’re passionate about, find a meaningful problem, and then solve the problem. Do it in such a way that you can scale it and go big.
Andrew McCombe:
Yeah. Essentially, you mentioned passion again; it’s not a case of just creating something for creating a site, and it’s not a case of just being an opportunist. How important is that passion? Obviously, we’ve talked about that with your journey, it’s been immense, but for everyone else that’s out there?
Dale Beaumont:
I remember hearing Brad Sugars say, “anyone can get rich quick in business, as long as your definition of quickest ten years.” When you look at any really successful entrepreneurs, they built their amazing business over a ten-year period. What you got to realize is if you’re just an opportunist and you’re just going into doing something just for money, you’re not going to sustain yourself. You’re not going to be there long enough. Now I loved working with young people. I was passionate about it. I loved working with entrepreneurs and business owners. So it’s easy for me to work with those people. And to just be able to sustain yourself for a longer period of time. But if I, all of a sudden, would say, “I want to pick fishermen, because I’ve found this really great new rod…” I’m just not passionate about that, and so I’m not going to stick out long enough to actually get the result. It might last six months, maybe a year, but then after that, it’s going to fall in a heap. Find a market, people that you love to serve, and love hanging around. Then find a problem that they have and then solve it.
Andrew McCombe:
And what are the biggest things you’ve learned from your clients or community is probably a better way to put it of entrepreneurs. So, obviously, you’re teaching them a lot of things. What are they teaching you?
Dale Beaumont:
They’re teaching me a lot of stuff. So that’s one of the most amazing things about my business. I’ve got about 500 clients that I have helped. But they are also out there doing amazing things in their business, and they tell me what they’re doing. And then I say, “you’ve got to teach it to the community.” A lot of my speakers are actually made up of my students that are doing amazing things. For example, one of them was a girl who started a Facebook group. And she’s got 67,000 people in her Facebook group in the last ten months. I just spoke to her; she sent me a message last night. And she said, just this last week, we’ve had 5,400 people join her Facebook group. I said, “That is amazing. Can you teach it?” So, a few weeks ago, she came to one of my events, and she actually taught how she did it.
There are also two guys that run a craft beer business, and they did this campaign where they did Australia’s first craft beer survey. They got 14,000 new people in their database within 30 days by creating this campaign. I feel like I’m able to find all these great entrepreneurs, they’re doing all these things, and then I’ve got this platform or this community to be able to share that knowledge amongst all of the other members.
Andrew McCombe:
Well, I guess that’s the power of the mastermind too, isn’t it? When they must get in that room with the courses and then the weekend programs, the energy must be sensational.
Dale Beaumont:
It is! Talking about passion, I love being around entrepreneurs. I love the resourcefulness of entrepreneurs. I love the down to earth attitude, ‘give it a go, give it a crack’ type spirit. It’s just effortlessness; when I’m at the events, I just love hanging out with people, and they just thrive off each other’s success. We follow this philosophy of ‘all ships rise in a high tide’. Out there in the real world, you got the tall poppy syndrome. When you do something, everyone wants to cut you down. But at our events, we create this amazing culture about sharing what’s working for you – share your wins, share your success, and share your failures as well.
It’s not all sunshine and roses all the time. There are tough challenges, and maybe we should talk about those as well. But when you share the good stuff that’s happening, you inspire others to do more good as well. And that creates more success, which then comes back to you and everyone helps everybody else. So it’s great to have provided a community for those people to share their success and learn from others.
Andrew McCombe:
And speaking of learning from others, obviously, there are a lot of business owners and entrepreneurs out there struggling at times too. What advice would you have for them when things are not going so well? T.
Dale Beaumont:
There’s the saying, “you can’t solve your current problems with the same mind that created them.” When you’re experiencing problems, and something’s going wrong in your business, you have to get out of your own head and get some outside perspective, be around other entrepreneurs. That isolation, I think, is the biggest killer of businesses. You need to be plugged in somewhere, whether you’re around a community, whether it be a mastermind. I’m part of a mastermind, and for the last 13 years, we’ve been meeting every six weeks. There’s a handful of entrepreneurs, and we get together, talking about our wins, about our war stories. We talk about the problems that we’re having in our business as well. I’ve got a big community of entrepreneurs now, but get out there and surround yourself with like-minded people that can build you up and help you and give you that perspective that you need as well.
Sometimes it’s some support and encouragement. Other times, it could be some tough love. Just suck it up, princess, get back out there. Sometimes they would go, “Oh, I hired a virtual assistant that didn’t work out.”, and I’m like, “End? Hire another one!” Sometimes it’s just about getting someone that’s going to tell you to stop whingeing and complaining and get on with it. (Andrew: Problem shared is a problem halved, isn’t it?)
Andrew McCombe:
Dale, did you ever think that maybe when you were seven, and your brother was 15, the tragedy that occurred at that time, and what you’ve been through now, would have somehow been related?
Dale Beaumont:
Yeah, I do think that experience was very tragic, and if I could go back in a heartbeat, I would change it.
But knowing that that’s not possible, I am grateful for what has happened as a result of that experience. And that led me to personal development. And that led me to then immersing myself with all these incredible people that I learned from. I am grateful; I had great teachers and people that invested in me. From there, I was able to go on the journey of helping young people as well, and now helping entrepreneurs and business owners. So, it was the defining moment of my life. And yeah, I was able to try and have that as not being my excuse, but rather my fuel to help me achieve my path in life.
Andrew McCombe:
And when you see that billboard, two happy people, when you’re not in a great space, is happiness possible when you’re in a state of adversity?
Dale Beaumont:
Yeah. I’ve had a lot of happy moments in my life now. My brother would want me to experience all of the wonderful things in life and be happy. He wouldn’t want me to stay in that dark place forever. Especially now, when you’ve got kids, and you can’t help but smile at the crazy things they do. It has helped me to become the person that I was born to be.
Andrew McCombe:
Twenty years from now, Dale, where will you be?
Dale Beaumont:
Wow. Well, I hope I’m still making an impact. I think I’ll still be working with entrepreneurs. It’s still what I’m passionate about. I hope that my youth program is still running because I think that young people are, of course, our future. I want to be able to continue using my life as an inspiration to others.
Part of it is about living your life to the fullest, so you can be an example to others, which is what I hope to do. And then, potentially, a career in politics, or maybe doing more work in the charity sector. When you look at work of Bill Gates and what he’s done in Africa with vaccinations and things like that. And the Gates foundation being responsible for saving the lives of millions and millions of people. I’d love to be in a position where I could just do more good.
Andrew McCombe:
Sensational, mate. Well, you’ve certainly inspired me to be a better person, a better businessman, and I really appreciate your coming on Outlier.
Dale Beaumont:
Thanks Andrew. Thanks mate. Thanks.
Andrew McCombe:
Well, there it is. I hope you enjoyed this inspiring Outlier episode with Dale Beaumont.
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