The World’s Best Golf Coach – Lawrie Montague

The World’s Best Golf Coach – Lawrie Montague

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Andrew McCombe:

hi there. I’m Andrew McCombe and welcome to Outlier TV, where we celebrate difference to make a difference. As we share inspiring stories of ordinary people, doing extraordinary things with their businesses and or their lives today, I’m going to be speaking to Lawrie Montague.

He’s one of the world’s best performance and golf coaches, and he’s going to be put out of his comfort zone so that you can get to know him a little better before his full Outlier TV episodes released and the next few days.

Okay, let’s go and meet Lawrie. Welcome to Outlier. (Thanks Andrew. Nice to be here, man.)

Mate, it is customary on Outlier before we have our full episode released in the next few days.

We’re going to put you out of your comfort zone a little bit. Had a few friends, family, et cetera. send me a few questions about you, and I want you to answer them with the first thing that comes to mind. You’re comfortable with it. (Do my best mate.) Good stuff. Okay. So do you prefer to be called a golf instructor, coach, teacher, or something else?

Lawrie Montague:

None of those. (What do you prefer?) I don’t like to be labeled in any way, so I’m probably more of a helper or an enabler.

Andrew McCombe:

Very good. Interesting. What inspired you to become a golf couch?

Lawrie Montague:

Because I was never good enough. So I wanted to learn more about why I wasn’t good enough to help others to become better. (Never good enough as player, or?) Never good enough as a player. When I got out there and realized how good you had to be, that I’d never understood that level.

Andrew McCombe:

Jakarta or Perth, and why?

Lawrie Montague:

I love Jakarta more than Perth. I love the chaos. I love the state of flux. I love the no rules. Well, hardly any rules. I love that side of life. I don’t really like structure to the level that it is, you know, at bureaucracy and low after low after low. I love it here.

Andrew McCombe:

Very good, the best golfer that’s ever lived, and why?

Lawrie Montague:

Well, there are some great golfers, but I mean, when I was a young assistant professional, I had the good fortune to sit opposite Jack Nicholas in 1982, at the Australian open, and watch my idol.

When I grew up playing in the seventies, I learned all my golf from his books. So I’d literally be sitting opposite him quietly, watching him hit practice shots in the ranges. So growing up in that era, I would say, I admire the hell out of Tiger Woods as well. Just a wonderful golfer.

Andrew McCombe:

The best student you’ve ever had, and why?

Lawrie Montague:

That’s a tough one because they’re all great in their own ways. Commitment wise, Amy Yang. When I was working with Amy Yang and just the amazing ability to just work the hours and get really, really good at the game in a relatively short period of time.

Andrew McCombe:

Most famous student.

Lawrie Montague:

Well, I wouldn’t say famous student, but I did spend the time just with Bob Hope on our own, on the practice field. I liked one afternoon at the Australian golf club when I was an assistant pro, he was asking me questions. He was concerned about the state of the golf balls we were using at the time. He was a pretty good golfer.

You know, he’s an older man at the time. But, he was a famous Hollywood actor, right? He’s just so famous. And it was just me and him on the range together. he was looking at the balls as he was hitting, he said, “they looked like they’d been through the battle of Dunkirk.” And I was old enough to understand what he meant.

So that would be the most famous person I’ve ever been around. (Did he sing for you?) He didn’t, but he loved the game. I mean, it was probably one of the last times. I don’t think he lived much longer than that. So that was an amazing time for me to see that.

Andrew McCombe:

Very good. Speaking of famous people, who’s your celebrity body double? Other than Willie Nelson.

Lawrie Montague:

Don’t know. (Maybe, it’s really Nelson.) Yeah. I would like to play guitar like Stevie Ray Vaughan.

Andrew McCombe:

Okay. What’s the song that depicts your life?

Lawrie Montague:

The first song that comes to mind is a Beatles song. Well, actually, George Harrison song, “Something.” I think of my wife, Susie, when I think of “Something,” it’s probably a special song for me.

Andrew McCombe:

Favorite music?

Lawrie Montague:

Beatles is right up there. I love music. I listen to it all the time, but Beatles is definitely right up there.

Andrew McCombe:

Is it true that you love coffee?

Lawrie Montague:

I enjoy coffee. (How many?) Not that many. Two or three a day, it used to be more.

Andrew McCombe:

Have you ever been hit by a student?

Lawrie Montague:

Yes, I have. (Yeah. What happened?) that was an interesting story. I was helping a very low handy-capper doing a drill, and he had seven on in his hand. And he’s back swinging. I was in the wrong place at the wrong time, and he unloaded the swing and hit me in the shin. And it cut through my trousers and opened up my shin.

I was at Narrabeen, coaching at the camp. So I go over to the sports center, the sports science area. They’ve got a doctor over there, and the doctor said, “I can’t stitch it up because it’s on the shinbone, too tight.”

So you got to pack it with wool every, keep it clean, and it’ll eventually squeeze together. On my way back, as I’m stumbling back across the park, where everyone was, there’s a mother with a whole bunch of ducks, and I’m limping as I’m going along. And she just thought, I must have been a great target for her.

I’m getting attacked by all the ducks while I’m doing that. Everybody on the range saw it; it was the funniest thing they’ve ever seen. Next week on coaching and Tasmania for the week, my leg went black. My whole leg, from the groin down to my foot. I was hit that hard. So that’s my story about being hit.

I’ve been hit a few times, been hit by golf balls, plenty of times.

Andrew McCombe:

Are you addicted to social media, and why?

Lawrie Montague:

I’m addicted to the motivational stuff on social media. I love sharing, especially, when you find unique stuff; I’m not into celebrities. Don’t follow any of that. Just good quotes, good memes. Creating my own. I’ve crated tons, over the last few years, last 10 years; I’ve created heaps and heaps.

Probably a lot of people follow me because I do that, from what I’ve been told. They say things like, “don’t stop sending stuff out. we love this stuff.” So I’m always looking at the unique stuff.

Andrew McCombe:

What’s the fastest way for anyone to improve their golf?

Lawrie Montague:

Get a good teacher, right from the beginning. Get someone who knows what they’re doing, can get straight to the point, and to keep it simple. Think of it like martial arts, like you’ve got a white belt.

Andrew McCombe:

Very good. So beginner’s mind. Would you rather drive the ball 300 meters or get up and down on every chip shot?

Lawrie Montague:

Get up and down on every chip shot.

Andrew McCombe:

Why?

Lawrie Montague:

Driving the bowl requires someone to just stand there and wind it up and swing it as fast as they possibly can. But hit chips in pit shots and lob shots requires a whole lot of different skill sets.

Andrew McCombe:

Most profound lesson you’ve ever learned.

Lawrie Montague:

There are many. I read a lot, and a lot of education. It would be Richard Bandler saying that, “people are perfect learners. The translation is the problem.” So the fact that he said that “perfect learners”, profoundly influenced me. (Change the way you think.) Totally. I mean, the fact that everybody I treat is a perfect learner. So it’s my responsibility to translate the information that I have in such a way that they can learn it perfectly.

Andrew McCombe:

So it’s getting hot. We’re in Jakarta. It’s about 40 degrees. I’m starting to sweat. Last thing. Why should the Outliers and the viewers and the entrepreneurs out there watch your Outlier episode? What am I going to learn?

Lawrie Montague:

Well, I started about as tough as you could start. Starting as a kid, as a dyslexic kid with no ability to read properly and to write properly, I struggled like crazy, taught myself how to read with the help of a good teacher who cared for me early days. And then I’ve done that my whole life. I’ve continued to study to be more of what I can be. Having said that, I consider myself a white belt every day. A beginner every single day of my life.

Andrew McCombe:

Fantastic. Well, it sounds exciting.

Lawrie Montague:

Well, If I get another shot at life and I can start again. That’s gotta be fantastic. It can’t be better than that. I mean, that’s all upside for me. All right. Well,

Andrew McCombe:

Well, let’s tune in on the next few days. There it is guys. We’ve now learned a lot more about Lawrie before our full Outlier TV episode’s released in the next few days.


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