Outlier TV Out Of The Comfort Zone Interview with Andrew McCombe
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Lawrie Montague:
Well, the shoe’s on the other foot. I’m with Andrew McCombe, who is the founder of a new show called Outlier. I’m going to ask Andrew some really twisty questions today about the show, about the good parts of the show. Some of the funny things that are going to happen. Some of the interesting people that are involved in the show. And this is a surprise for Andrew. He didn’t know this was going to happen, but I’m glad it’s happening. He’s always digging stuff out of everybody else about all sorts of things. We’re going to do the same thing to Andrew. So Andrew, welcome to the show. (Are you going to put me out of my comfort zone?) I’m definitely gonna put you out of your comfort zone, but I think to start with, Andrew, let’s talk about what an outlier is. Let’s talk a little bit about this show.
Andrew McCombe:
Well, it’s a show. It’s essentially about inspiring entrepreneurs, inner-preneurs, and social-preneurs, innovators, dreamers, living outside the comfort zone. I guess, ordinary people, doing extraordinary things with their businesses and their lives. (So what makes an outlier different specifically to someone else?) I guess they think differently, mate. They don’t like to be told what to do. They like to do what they want to do. They tend to do what they’re passionate about. (So are they not nonconforming type?) A hundred percent. They’re definitely nonconformists. I hate conformity, and I’m sure you do too.
Lawrie Montague:
I’ve got an interesting background, and one of the things that I thought would be good was – Tony, your brother, he basically got back at you probably for some of the things you’ve done. So I’ve got a question from Tony. Tony says, “Andrew, where would you go for a pee when you got home from school busting and your brother Mark was on the toilet for ages?”
Andrew McCombe:
Well, I have a few options, but ask him where he went in the middle of the night when he went into the pantry there. Where would I go? I’ve got no idea.
Lawrie Montague:
Okay, mate, can you tell us a little bit more about an outlier? How does an outlier develop their potential?
Andrew McCombe:
Well, I guess the first thing is, a good outlier is quite self-reflective, they know what they stand for. They know what their values are. They know what they want in life. They have a vision, they have a cause, they have a message that they want to share, and they know it’s going to make a difference in some form. I think they see the world differently. But how do they develop that? I guess they’ve got to see that in their mind with absolute clarity and feel it in their bodies with absolute certainty and then resonate with it as often as possible. So that then it turns up in their external reality.
Lawrie Montague:
So, okay. Let’s say they do all of those things. Do outliers adapt faster than a regular person? How do they go about adapting faster?
Andrew McCombe:
Good question. So to me, an outlier is very intuitive. They feel, they see, they sense what’s going on and they may not know it, but they naturally go with the flow more than, say, someone who’s a bit more non-outliers. They’re more rigid, more stuck in the mainstream.
Lawrie Montague:
Do they tend to be university-educated people, or are they people that have sort of come up off the streets?
Andrew McCombe:
It doesn’t matter. I went to Uni, but how much Uni have I ever used? Hardly anything. I didn’t want to go there. I couldn’t wait to get out of Uni because I already knew what I wanted to do.
Lawrie Montague:
But is it also about the structure that you didn’t like?
Andrew McCombe:
I had to go to bloody lectures, mate. After the first year, I went back. I ended up getting all my notes from a mate, stayed at home, and went to the gym, and played volleyball. That was my Uni. (Do you think a lot of people can relate to that?) A hundred percent. They said you had to have a degree. The only thing I stayed at Uni was to get my degree, which in hindsight, I’ve only ever been asked for once. And I had a personal training business, health clubs and stuff, a physical education degree, and one person ever asked me what my qualifications were. (Out of all the people that you worked with.) universities are a business. They’re not what it’s cracked up to be. Don’t buy into the crap. They’re an education business that somehow has managed over the years to get government support, to make you think you have to get these qualifications in order to get jobs that, again, are for people to tell you what to do.
Lawrie Montague:
Well, we’re actually seeing now a bit of a transformation in that, a bit of a change, aren’t we? We’re seeing the likes of some of the great entrepreneurs, some of the biggest people, biggest names in the world now saying, “you know what? That’s not what we’re looking for.”
Andrew McCombe:
Doesn’t work for them. Entrepreneurs don’t want that. Tesla, for example; Google’s not looking for educated people. They’re looking for creative people, right? (So what’s a creative person?) They’re just someone who thinks differently. They see things differently. They think outside the box. But they’re result-oriented. And solution-oriented. So they just want to get a result. They don’t care how the result happens. Just get us a result. So I think, A) they’re clear on what’s the result they want. And B) they start working out a plan on how to make it happen.
Lawrie Montague:
Tony texted me another message for you, mate. He said visual mate, Hayden endorse hitchhiking on volleyball trips. What’s that all about?
Andrew McCombe:
That’s an interesting one about psychology, mate. I’ll tell you a little story there. So we went to this national championships for volleyball, and our mate Hayden hitched a ride. He hitched a ride from Wellington, and it was in New Plymouth. I think it was. He picked up this hitch, he got picked up by a guy, and this guy pulls into a side road, halfway on the trip, just against a hedge. So he couldn’t get out. And he starts masturbating in front of him. He says, “you don’t want to join me, do you?” And my mate, when he turns up in New Plymouth, he was as white as it ghost. And we’re all laughing. We’re saying, “mate, what didn’t you get out of the car?” He goes, “well, A) it is weird. And B) I just wanted to get here.” Cause we’ve got no money. Cause we were students. Anyway, he was sheet white when he got there. And that was the biggest laugh we’ve ever had. So say no to hitchhiking.
Lawrie Montague:
Okay. I’ve got one question here. And then I’ve just got another buzz from Tony. What can outliers do to stay true to themselves?
Andrew McCombe:
Stay true. Good question, mate. It’s hard because the mainstream appears to be doing the opposite a lot of the time. (So that makes it real challenging, right?) Yeah. I mean, you feel like you’re different, right? You feel like you don’t belong, and that’s not an easy process. So stay true. I guess, surround yourself with other outliers. The other thing with outliers though, we all tend to be doing our own thing. We don’t like always come and hang out together like a herd or a crowd or whatever. Cause we don’t like doing that. But we do like to connect at times with deep, meaningful connections. I do endorse that, and I do endorse that when we go back to education, self select your education, and don’t be told what you should learn. So find things you’re interested in and learn from that. And there are mentors in their own rights, books, videos, podcasts, all of that.
But this is something that not a lot of people know about. Find a way to dissipate the emotional charge that’s going on around you. That’s finding hard work. Did you hear what I just said? If not hook us up, we’ll be able to help you with that. It’s an interesting one. Isn’t it? But that’s something different, and it’s an outliers’ thing, but the only reason we don’t have what we want is we’re not resonating with it. Right? So it means we’ve on a different frequency. And a frequency is just a feeling or vibration.
So if things are feeling hard, identify the feelings you’d rather feel and feel them as often as you can. And by default, you start to attract. You’re in harmony with that vibration.
Lawrie Montague:
Well, this is not going to get you in harmony anyway. So the last one. He says, “is it true that when you’re a teenager, you could do more than a hundred farts in a row, consecutively, when lying on your back in the lounge with your butt pointed skyward?” (With no, it’s not true. I could do 384 that night. I had a headache afterward.)
Andrew McCombe:
This will crack you up. Fourteen years old, went to school, told my mates that story, right? One of my mates turned to me and went, “Is that all? Any proceeded with no weird body action to pull out at least 400, just threw effort.
Lawrie Montague:
Just shows you what can happen when you practice a lot. (Or you put your mind to something. It was competitive. So he just wanted to beat me in that.) Well, it’s great asking these questions, and I’ve learned some amazing things, and I think we should probably all tune into your TV show.
Watch and be inspired by a lot of people that are doing extraordinary things in this world.
Andrew McCombe:
Well, I know we’re having a bit of a laugh, but the reality is – Well, I wouldn’t say it’s serious, but it’s a serious inspiration. If you’re feeling a bit lost, you don’t belong; you don’t fit in, you’re not fitting into a system that works for you, or you’re an entrepreneur that wants to do something amazing, such as yourself. I’d highly recommend go to outlier.tv and register, and you’ll get the episodes as they come out. (Thanks for your time.)
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